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Was Christie the Leak?

by: huntsu

Sat Oct 31, 2009 at 01:16:33 PM EDT



There's been a lot of supposition over the years that the US Attorney's office under Chris Christie leaked like a sieve, slipping information damaging to Democrats to the press while holding tight to information that could hurt Republicans.

The evidence was largely circumstantial.  How did the press find out about the subpoena to Bob Menendez just weeks before the Senatorial election?  Why was Brian Thompson standing around as subpoenas were served on Democrats in the Christmas Tree investigation?

Back on March 1, 2007 we wrote:

There is surely no fire here, and maybe only a scent of smoke from far away.  But the actions and subpoenas of the past seven months are exactly what a US Attorney who was told to put pressure on the Democrats would start doing.  Every time a Democrat starts gaining points, hit them with a subpoena.  Every time a Republican needs to score points, make an announcement.

Well, now there's fire to go with the smoke.  The Corzine FOIA requests for Christie's communications have unearthed actual phone slips of calls from the media to Christie late on the afternoon of February 27th, 2007 -- the day before subpoenas were dropped on three Democratic legislators.

Here's Brian Thompson of television's NBC News, talking with Christie the afternoon before the subpoenas dropped: thompson-227afternoon

And here's Michael Gartland of The Record talking the same afternoon:  gartland-227afternoon

Both Thompson was hanging out at the statehouse just in time for the subpoenas on February 28th, 2007 ensuring quick coverage on television and the Internet.

It's no stretch to think that Christie was the leak, telling reporters about secret Grand Jury actions -- which is, by the way, a crime.  Christie has to answer for this, and either reveal what he talked about with Thompson and Gartland that day or tacitly admit that he personally was the leak.

Before today it was easy to believe Christie used leaks from his office to aid in his political goals.  After today it is hard to refute.

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More great stuff from huntsu (4.00 / 3)
I'm sure it's just a coincidence the reporters were at the state house, just like it also must have been a coincidence that Joe Kyrillos called Chris Christie the very same day his brother Todd Christie donated $225,000 to the Republican State Committee.

Smells Like Hatch Act Violations..... (0.00 / 0)
Whatever happens on Tuesday, there is a need for a special prosecutor to investigate Christie's reign as US Attorney...and to prosecute any crimes he and/or his associates may have committed.

Huntsu (4.00 / 7)
I have to say, nobody has been more dogged, and for so long, in ferreting out the truth about who Christie is than you. You had this guy's number from the very beginning.


It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

Many People Have Known Christie Was/Is... (4.00 / 1)
...a lousy hypocritical prick.  The fact pattern was, pretty much, out there.    

Huntsu deserves massive credit for doggedly collating/articulating/documenting that case for years.  (I remember suggesting that Huntsu do a book on Christie so that all of the evidence/arguments could be found in one place.......there is a need for that now more than ever.)  And, no doubt, there are many many more dots yet to be discovered and connected.   The Bush administration was in many regards an organized crime "family".

Sadly, not enough people got the message because this total asshole is now a few points from occupying the governor's mansion!

If Christie was this blatant and arrogant to make these calls from his office, knowing that there was some monitoring, imagine how many maleficent things he did when he had an expectation of privacy!   How many scores of times was he stopped for traffic violations that no one 's ever heard about because the cops just layed down?

A Special Prosecutor is needed.


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Subpeona the reporters (4.00 / 1)

Fishman needs to subpeona the reporters.  There is no real "reporters' privilege" in law.

If Christie tipped the reporters, they are complicit in a crime, right?

The integrity of the DOJ is too important not to pursue this.  It's not a matter of partisanship; it's a matter of credibility of the federal prosecution system.

No one is above the law, and Fishman needs to show that justice is still blind in America.  It's vital to our three co-equal democracy.


Consider ... (0.00 / 0)

If Christie wins on Tuesday, he could be indicted early in his term for crimes preceding his oath of office.   Or, maybe even indicted before he takes office.

Is it legal for someone to hold the governor post if convicted of federal crimes?

We need to hear from Gartland and Thompson, or if no denial from them the door is open to the speculation that Christie leaked secret grand jury action to them.

If these journalists have integrity and are unbiased, they will speak honestly to their audience now about this, and not hide behind the shield law ... which doesn't protect them absolutely in criminal matters such as this, anyway.  The shield law clearly never was intended to allow reporters to be direct co-conspirators in a crime.



Anyone (0.00 / 0)
call them for comment?

Thank You, Huntsu! (0.00 / 0)
With all the fetid smoke, you found the fire and the start of the connection to Kyrillos. Keep digging it may even lead you to Ocean County.

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith



One more degree of separation (4.00 / 1)

... Go one more step, from Kyrillos to John Bennett.  That's where you'll find another old smoking gun, metaphorically speaking.

The Christie smoking guns are all in Monmouth and Ocean counties, I believe, coincidentally the Asbury Park Press audience.  And, as has been pointed out, the APP really ought to be reported as in-kind campaign contributions.

Skip Hidlay had investigative reporters when he headed the APP newsroom.  They were willing to go after Bennett then.  But once Hidlay was gone and Gary Schoening was in charge, it has been GOP campaigning all the time, all the way, no need for anything beyond stinkin' stenographers and statisticians to sensationalize government numbers.


[ Parent ]
Too little too late (0.00 / 0)
This story might have some legs a few weeks ago but its too late now.  

If Christie does win I hope Democrats don't make the same mistake as Republicans when they tried to jump on every Clinton scandal as if they struck oil, or Tom Wilson and his holy crusade for the Corzine/Katz emails which wound up nearly bankrupting the NJ-GOP treasury.

The best bet for Democrats would be to regroup for 2010 and raise lots of money for their congressional candidates and also municipal/county offices.

I would submit it will take more than just a few phone calls between Joe Kyrillos and Chris Christie to start a prolonged and costly investigation (remember the $60 million Ken Starr spent).  Of course, if there is significant evidence of serious criminal activity you have a Democratic US Attorney as well as a Democratic Justice Department to look into it.
If there are Democratic politicians screaming for investigations and independent prosecutors it only undermines the legitimacy of actual investigations.  The politicians and pundits should restrain their cheerleading and let the prosecutors go about their business.

The majority of voters don't like scandalmongering, even if there is evidence of wrongdoing.  It didn't work for Republicans in 1998 and won't work for Democrats either if Christie emerges victorious.

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that's the whole point though (4.00 / 2)
Michele Brown was in charge of the FOIA requests to make sure none of this came out before the end of the election. It may be too little, too late to influence the election, but that doesn't me it still can't stink like a big pile of horse crap. And I don't think it's scandal mongering when huntsu has been connecting these dots for years. It's not her fault the media has just now decided to do their job a little bit. It's funny, before to suggest this was considered a conspiracy theory. Now to discuss it after the fact could be scandal mongering.  Is there ever a good time to talk about the bad things someone has done.

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IOKIYAR (4.00 / 1)
For the right wing, it's OK to do whatever you want and horrible to call them on it.  It doesn't matter if it is when you suspect it's happening, when you see it happening, when you find out it happened, or after the entire thing is over.

For some, saying that a Republican did something bad or illegal is unAmerican.  

For some, hypocrisy is a way of life.


[ Parent ]
You're missing the point (4.00 / 2)

... and so are most of the people commenting at politickernj.

This isn't about two politicians, even though Christie happens to be a politician today.  This is about Christie's performance as USA.  That's NOT a political position.  His doings there -- talking to Kyrillos, defying FOIAs, possibly criminally leaking grand jury indictments at least indirectly -- are nonpartisan public service obligations, legal obligations.

Christie's pickles don't compare to Corzine in any way, because Corzine was never a federal civil service employee.  He has been only an elected politician, both federal and state.  

This isn't about politics.  It's about the law, and the integrity of the U.S. Justice Department and the whole federal prosecution system that is supposed to serve justice blind to any politics.

Voters may still pick the crook as the politician they want for state chief executive, but that political choice has nothing to do with enforcement of the law in Christie's job as a federal civil servant.  


[ Parent ]
Too little too late? (4.00 / 4)
We were writing on this stuff back in 2006.  It's not Blue Jersey that was too little too late, but the traditional media.

Don't blame us that the paid people wouldn't look at this stuff until recently.  They preferred to call Christie a Superhero even when the evidence was he was just another hack.


[ Parent ]
This reminds me (4.00 / 2)
of how only Blue Jersey was covering the Ferriero corruption story.  We couldn't get the time of day let alone one stinking letter to the Record printed about Ferriero destroying the Bergen Democratic party from the inside.  It was Blue Jersey that helped us form an actual reform slate and kick Ferriero out of the Chairman's slot before he became the darling of the Record's front page headline writers.

Huntsu has been on this Christie story from day one, and has not rested for one minute.  It is about time the "journalists"  try covering this stuff better.  We can't keep doing their jobs for them.  This is why folks aren't reading newspapers anymore - and are turning to bloggers instead.    

The MSM takes too long to even matter anymore.

One Vote. Yours. It really does matter.


[ Parent ]
I'm not sure I follow... (0.00 / 0)
Wouldn't it be logical for those guys to call Christie if someone from his office leaked the info to them...?

Seems to me if I'm one of these journalists and some 'deep throat' guy calls me and says the US attorney's offices is up to this and that, I'd be calling Christie's to confirm/deny the info I recieved.



"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


Good point (4.00 / 1)

And here's what makes it interesting.  I questioned USA Christie on a number of questions about speculation on investigations and grand jury matters.

If it was something he didn't want to answer, he said he could not answer because it was an ongoing investigation.  When he wanted to protect someone, he used that excuse even when an investigation was long closed, as when he insisted he had to keep all Bennett's secrets even after he sent Bennett an unprecedented letter absolving him of all suspicion.

But, if it was something he did want to answer even though it was still an ongoing investigation (which in my experience with him was exclusively matters prosecuting Democrats), the ongoing investigation and grand jury role didn't seem to matter to him.

It was not even subtle, really.  He just comes off as arrogant, Mafia-esque, not that bright in acting as if no one will notice he's just answered your questions about an ongoing investigation in his political interest to divulge.

Based on my first-hand experience, I'd guess that if these journalists called him for confirmation in the matters under speculation in this diary, he answered them, even if it was a tacit answer like, "Be outside So-And-So's office about 8 am tomorrow."  In a trial, I think a jury might just consider that divulging secret proceedings even if he wasn't the first of a journalist's required multiple sources.  


[ Parent ]
Agreed, Christie Isn't All That Bright... (0.00 / 0)
...mind you I'm not saying he's stupid; but his sheer arrogance and self inflated ego dims his powers of reason when it comes to his own flaws and wrongdoings.   Denial is inherently an unrational process.

This is a guy who has now, weeks after the revelations that he drove up a one way street and collided with an innocent motorcyclist, is actually DENYING what is clearly stated on the police report and stating that the motorcyclist "hit me".

This is a guy who originally claimed there "was no law suit" but had to backtrack when reporters found records of the motorcyclist's legal action....which, obviously was "settled" by Christie paying the guy off with big bugs and a no talk agreement.

And there are many many other examples of the man's sheer brazen dishonesty.  This guy has the demeanor and attitude of a political boss a la Ferriero, not a seeker of truth and justice........which is what a US Attorney is supposed to be.

I'm still predicting Corzine by 5; but that doesn't change the reality that this bum betrayed his office and should be held to account!

Frankly, I would love to see some instant 30 second spots released over the next two days raising these well founded/legitimate questions.


[ Parent ]
Hmmmm. (4.00 / 1)
OK, so let's assume that Christie wasn't the leak.

That means that the call from Thompson informed him that there was a leak.

If that's true, Christie did nothing about it which is horrible management.

Even given your assumption, Christie has still sinned by either commission or omission.  


[ Parent ]
More Smoke than Fire (0.00 / 0)
All I see is 2 "call me" messages. We can't even determine if any question from the reporters was relayed. I would be more suprised to learn that he received no calls from reporters. That would cast a cloud that he was the source as noone would be looking to him as a second source.

I think that the problem with Christie is the overall economic plan that could be Christie Whitman Part 2. The concept of sullying his record as an AG went out the window when he received widespread praise from everybody on both sides of the aisle a couple of years ago.  


If Christie Never Ran For Governor You Would Be Correct... (4.00 / 1)
....none of this would have mattered/come to light.

Win or lose, lots of factual real legitimate wrongdong on Christie's part has been illuminated in the past months.

Huntsu, or someone else, will eventually connect all the dots in a compelling way.   And no doubt, there will be more and more revelations.  This guy was an all around sleaze/bully/creep and there is more than a prima facie case to be made that he violated the Hatch Act.

There must be a special prosecutor appointed that is unsullied by political taint.  People must be questioned under oath.     The trail of cronyism and favors and manipulation is too clear for there not to have been illegal acts.   Does anyone really believe it's just a blind coincidence that Michele Brown gets a nice job at a firm that is connected to Christie?  Or that Ashcroft gets a massive no bid contract from his ex employee?

The political case for outright lies and corruption is massively stupendously overwhelming....that much is 100% certain.

Christie could have been so utterly politically destroyed/eviscerated that even his most rabid fans would have been ashamed to say they voted for him.   But, that "tack" wasn't taken....and we are where we are.


[ Parent ]
Good job huntsu (4.00 / 1)
Excellent job and thank you!

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