Christie: I was wrong

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We Were Wrong.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 17:58:49 PM CST

Keep shooting pardner (0.00 / 0)

I thought lawmen were taught to think before they shoot.  This is not the first time our top lawman has displayed his trigger-happy ways.  The more bad shots he takes, the easier target he becomes for our soon-to-be legislative sharpshooters.  

"The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." - Sen. Ted Kennedy

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by: Bill Orr @ Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 18:27:09 PM CST

Smart as a fox (0.00 / 0)

Poor Chris Christie!

Stop right now.

He knew months ago that he could not legally break that deal.So now he goes "public" and the taxpayers are going to go ballistic. Christie will tell them that he can't reinstate "needed " programs because he has to pay state workers their "7%" increase.

Christie can now do just about anything and blame it on the State workers.

Christie also knows that Article 41 of the state worker contract clearly states that if the Legislature does not appropriate the money to pay for the terms of the contract then the terms become null and void.

Poor Chris Christie will simply say that he would like to stop this money from being appropriated but his hands are tied by the Legislature.

Poor Chris Christie also knows that the renegotiated contract agreement ends on January 1,2011. So 6 months into the fiscal year he can order massive layoffs to make up for this 7% raise. He will use the contract terms against the union leadership and make them either reopen the contract again or be blamed for thousands and thousands of layoffs.

Chrisite is no dummy and he is certainly not "handcuffed". He is a skilled politician who will use this situation to get public anger to a fever pitch.

If the Unions were smart they would immediately offer to reopen the contract " for the sake of the over taxed taxpayer" and renegotiate publicly any new  terms.The unions however are not smart and will look on this as a victory.This will antagonize taxpayers even morewhich is just what Christie wants.  

To out smart a fox you must think like a fox

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by: firstamend07 @ Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 19:47:21 PM CST

Crazy Like a Fox (0.00 / 0)

There's no reason to reopen contract negotiations.  Are all the local school districts reopening their contract negotiations?  No, even though their contracts have been more generous than the state worker contracts.  I've think you've really lost it if you think the best tactic for state workers is to reopen contract negotiations.  

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by: princetonblue @ Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 20:19:43 PM CST

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So, (0.00 / 0)

he's disgusting inside AND out?

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 22:28:35 PM CST

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Christie holds the key to (0.00 / 0)

the magic kingdom ...pension funding ...unions would be short sighted to think the public will stand for this ...his other tools ...outsourcing ,benefit cuts ...let pensions implode ...Christie has the public support on this one ,I think the union handed him a golden opportunity

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by: speedkillsu @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 04:16:39 AM CST

Amen (0.00 / 0)

This is indeed a setup and the unions are too stupid to see it.

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by: firstamend07 @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 05:11:31 AM CST

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Set up during the Corzine Administration? (0.00 / 0)

That WAS clever.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:36:07 AM CST

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the truth... (0.00 / 0)

the truth is the deal was struck so Joe Biden didn't have to cross a picket line... it wasn't a set up, it wasn't in the best interests of taxpayers, it was a campaign move.

Pure and simple.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

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by: William Weber (WjcW) @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 12:57:31 PM CST

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Which 1stAmend is insinuating (0.00 / 0)

Khrispie orchestrated to pull a fast one on the unions once he was in office.

Clever!

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 15:16:36 PM CST

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Whatever works best fot the taxpayer (0.00 / 0)

So now Christie cannot  reduce expenses , and he  is not allowed to layoff or furlough employees, once NJ runs out of money and cannot issue paychecks, what recourse will people who normally get their their paycheck directly or indirectly from the state have? Pretty aggressive trump card to throw down on the gov's part but once the well runs dry, probably does not matter what someone's employment agreement says - the paycheck will bounce if there is no money in the account.

If Christie is smart  his next move is " I've got plenty of jobs at $11 and hour but none at $24, let me know which works best for you."...

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by: speedkillsu @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 10:01:26 AM CST

Yeah, that will work (0.00 / 0)

What I find hilarious is this idea that state workers, most of whom are professionals, are going to just work at minimum wage.  If the state pays $11, the state will stop functioning as the talent will be gone.

It's not like these ideas work in the private sector either.  $11 an hour = $22,880 a year.  Maybe that works at Walmart.

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by: princetonblue @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:12:35 AM CST

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Okay then (0.00 / 0)

Corzine made a deal designed not to ensure the fiscal health of NJ but to garner Union votes. Anyone who is happy with the Corzine deal is short sighted because it means the 2010-2011 cuts won't include layoffs so the cuts that are made will have to be deeper. That means the state program that provides blind Rocco with brail books might be cut entirely, school aid may be gone entirely, other programs helping the vulnerable may be reduced or eliminated.

On the national stage the Republicans are the "Party of No" it seems the Democrats are becoming the same for NJ. I want to see the Democrat plan to close the 2010-2011 budget gap? What do the Democrats want to cut or what taxes do they want to raise.

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by: HobokenSchmo @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:32:30 AM CST

But it's great when Republicans do it? (0.00 / 0)

Your party is WALLOWING in NO, so don't hand us your high and "coöperative" moral values, suddenly.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:39:10 AM CST

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What? (0.00 / 0)

A) What is my party?

B) I friggin said the Republicans are the Party of "No" on the national stage

C) What have national politics to do with closing the 8 to 12 billion money hole in the 2010-2011 budget? The Feds said they aren't going to save us.

I want to see the budget hole closed doing the least amount of damage to our State. Having both the Governor and the Legislature put forward Cuts and or New Taxes would seem appropriate. Trotting out blind kids or whining that Christie is a big meanie is not.

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by: HobokenSchmo @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:50:37 AM CST

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"Trotting (0.00 / 0)

out blind kids or whining that Christie is a big meanie is not."

Yes. We'll leave that sort of finger-pointing to Karl Rove and Sarah Palin.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 12:10:50 PM CST

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you don't have to (0.00 / 0)

"Yes. We'll leave that sort of finger-pointing to Karl Rove and Sarah Palin."

You don't have to, the State Assembly is doing it for them, and aren't we all proud.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.s...

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by: HobokenSchmo @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 12:27:25 PM CST

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State Assembly (0.00 / 0)

At least the State Assembly doesn't consciously lie like the Governor seems to like doing.  

I'd like to be able to like the Governor.  He certainly wants to lead.  But part of leadership is telling the truth and caring about the facts.  He seems not to care if what he says is true or not.   That makes him less a leader and more a dictator.

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by: princetonblue @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 14:37:06 PM CST

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And (0.00 / 0)

More of a liar.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:19:33 AM CST

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the Ball is in CC court (0.00 / 0)

The proper way for Christie to     negotiate is as follows: Either the union reopens the contract for savings or every single current union member will be fired at the end of the contract. It really isn't that hard, . Christie  holds all the cards if  he would bother to play them ...RR played then just fine ask the air controllers how they made out  

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by: speedkillsu @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 18:12:08 PM CST

Why? (0.00 / 0)

Why do you even bother to post here?

You post nonsense.  You don't even understand the historical situations (like RR and the air traffic controllers) that you post about.  

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by: princetonblue @ Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 19:47:19 PM CST

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"RR": (4.00 / 2)

"RR" was responsible for the backdoor deal with Iran to free the American hostages AFTER he became President.

"RR" lowered the taxes on the WEALTHY within weeks of taking office. "RR" then imposed the largest tax hike in history within a year. "RR"'s economic actions quintupled the number of homeless in this country during his reign.

"RR" began the concerted effort of "union busting" that is still going on today. "RR" put air travel at extreme risk by firing the air traffic controllers and then relaxed the airline regulations on operations and maintenance.

"RR" then went about "DEREGULATING" THE BANKING AND FINANCIAL INDUSTRY that was the beginning of the economic meltdown we are experiencing today.

"RR" began the "Star Wars" military build-up that eventually DOUBLED the National Debt while wasting FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS and getting precious little in return.

"RR" continued to ship missiles to Iran and when Congress objected and PASSED LAWS forbidding the practice, "RR" ILLEGALLY BEGAN THE "Iran/Contra" missiles for drugs (Heroin, Cocaine) CIA operation (that would be the same CIA that supposedly "does not lie to or mislead Congress"), WHILE Nancy Reagan was touting "Just Say No To Drugs."

"RR" also made close ties and support with "right-wing" radical South American governments that turned South Americans against the USA for years and years.

"RR" also continued pushing "globalization" and "free trade" agreements that would eventually cost Americans MILLIONS OF JOBS while compensating corporations for shipping those jobs overseas.

"RR" did NOTHING for the middle class or poor in this country.

As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.

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by: Jersey Shore John @ Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 07:29:37 AM CST

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